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Post by Desolation on Tue 02 May 2017, 8:10 pm

I was in a rush when I bought a few things at PetSmart and one of the items was a pine log den, and I just noticed that It says that it's made out of pine wood in the very small text at the bottom of the package. Since pine shavings are bad for mice, are actual pine logs bad for them, too?

Heres what it looks like

https://i.servimg.com/u/f58/19/68/59/61/pine_l10.jpg
https://i.servimg.com/u/f58/19/68/59/61/pine_l11.jpg

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Post by AnonymousMouseOwner on Tue 02 May 2017, 8:17 pm

That is totally fine! Toys made of pine are ok, it's the bedding that's bad.

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Post by CallaLily on Tue 02 May 2017, 9:17 pm

Yep, safe.  I think the difference is whether or not it's kiln-dried. I believe that's why the bedding is listed as unsafe, because it's not necessarily kiln-dried. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: Ok here's what our article says about pine.
Kiln-dried Pine/Softwood shavings

Kiln-dried (treated) pine is a bedding commonly found in stores, and often attacked for being harmful. The truth is that kiln-dried pine is no more risky than any other wood bedding out there. There is NO *true* evidence that it is any more harmful than any other wood bedding, including aspen (aspen being the one it is most commonly compared to). The concern about pine is the phenols in it that protect the tree from parasites (note that all trees have some kind of defense against parasites, not just pine). Treated pine has phenols baked out (kiln-dried) at extreme temperatures (beyond what your home oven could heat to).
https://www.petmousefanciers.com/t36-cleaning-odor-and-bedding

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